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Friday, April 10, 2015

The Future of Freedom: A Feature Interview with NSA Whistleblower William Binney

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Former NSA Director, the highest ranking National Security whistleblower in U.S. history, William Binney... a living, breathing National Treasure, and an inspiration to me personally, for standing up and doing what he knew to be the right thing, even though that act came at great risk and expense; both to him, and to those he cared about the most.

Would you like to learn more about the agenda being carried out with YOUR TAX DOLLARS, and WITHOUT your knowledge, approval, or consent?

Carefully consider everything that Binney is sharing within this historic interview, he's a 36 year veteran of America’s Intelligence Community... and he resigned from his position as Director for Global Communications Intelligence (COMINT) at the National Security Agency (NSA) and blew the whistle; after discovering that his efforts to protect the privacy and security of Americans were being undermined by those above him in the chain of command.

Want to know WHY you're losing your Civil Rights & privacy; giving them up in exchange for alleged security? Want to know why it's now YOU and your family that's being targeted by the NSA's surveillance programs?

Please watch, and share... thank you, for tuning in, and NOT dropping out!

"If a nation expects to be both ignorant and free, it expects what
never was and never will be." ~ President Thomas Jefferson

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

A 36-year veteran of America’s Intelligence Community, William Binney resigned from his position as Director for Global Communications Intelligence (COMINT) at the National Security Agency (NSA) and blew the whistle, after discovering that his efforts to protect the privacy and security of Americans were being undermined by those above him in the chain of command.

The NSA data-monitoring program which Binney and his team had developed -- codenamed ThinThread -- was being aimed not at foreign targets as intended, but at Americans (codenamed as Stellar Wind); destroying privacy here and around the world. Binney voices his call to action for the billions of individuals whose rights are currently being violated.

William Binney speaks out in this feature-length interview with Tragedy and Hope's Richard Grove, focused on the topic of the ever-growing Surveillance State in America.

On January 22, 2015: (Berlin, Germany) – The Government Accountability Project (GAP) is proud to announce that retired NSA Technical Director and GAP client, William "Bill" Binney, will accept the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence Award today in Berlin, Germany. The award is presented annually by the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence (SAAII) to a professional who has taken a strong stand for ethics and integrity.

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Sunday, July 20, 2014

Statue of Liberty And Immigrants

 Statue of Liberty

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For some reason, people have difficulty structuring their arguments when arguing against supporting the currently proposed immigration revisions. This lady made the argument pretty simple. NOT printed in the Orange County Paper ....
Newspapers simply won't publish letters to the editor which they either deem politically incorrect (read below) or which do not agree with the philosophy they're pushing on the public. This woman wrote a great letter to the editor that should have been published.  Now, with your help, it will get published via cyberspace!
From: "David LaBonte"
My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I decided to "print" it myself by sending it out on the Internet.
Pass it along if you feel so inclined.
Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register:
Dear Editor:
So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
They had waved good-bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France and Japan. None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the United States of America as one people.
When we liberated France, no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German-American or the Irish-American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.
And here we are with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about. I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900's deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.
And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.
Rosemary LaBonte

I sincerely hope this letter gets read by millions of people all across the nation!!

Wednesday, June 4, 2014





At last night’s Town Council meeting, I had the misfortune to witness one of the most disgraceful acts by Miriam Morgan-Alexander during the Pledge of Allegiance.  Miriam Morgan-Alexander was wearing a “Howdy Doody” hat and rendered a phony hand salute during the Pledge of Allegiance.

I have sat through a year of Morgan-Alexander wearing a non-military beret with pins on it and rendering a hand salute during our Pledge of Allegiance without saying a word.  After serving this great nation for forty years both in the Army and then as a Department of Defense civilian, I am proud of this nation and our flag which signifies our freedom.  I am proud to be a veteran who has defended this flag for the best part of my life.

I can honestly say that I personally believe that Miriam Morgan-Alexander is a phony, a wannabe who gives a bad name to true vets who have protected this great nation and those who made the ultimate sacrifice. 

This total lack of respect for our nation colors leaves a terrible taste in my mouth. 

You do not render a military hand salute while wearing a “HOWDY DOODY” hat.  Miriam Morgan-Alexander, please no more attempts at rendering a hand salute while wearing non-military headgear.

Larry Fillmore

Sunday, June 1, 2014

America Is In BIG Trouble; American Overlook: Former Secret Service Agent’s Warning For America About Obama

Dan Bongino is a former secret service agent who says Obama is taking things way too far and America is in serious trouble.

He appeared on a show talking with Glenn Beck and started off by saying We’re in a lot of trouble. The president sees government — and I think it’s because of his lack of experience, and maybe community organizing in the past — as like this shiny new toy. And for all the disagreements I had with Clinton, Carter, and Bush, there were always limits. There was that line you just didn’t cross — we cross that seemingly every day…”

The most dangerous Barack Obama video ever!!!


Bongino understands that people will have disagreements with the president, but Obama is taking it one step further everyday and fails to listen to what America is telling him they want.

He also noted how there are so many scandals going on in the administration that it is hard to keep track of what Obama is really doing. And these “distractions” can have devastating effects on America.

They also touched on the latest NSA scandals and Bongino says the way the NSA is evolving is very scary. He said “it gets at the roots of what liberty means…That flag means something. It’s undermining the very principles that made this country great.”

Friday, May 2, 2014

Believe In America, Believe In The "Good Guys" !

It's time to believe in the good guys again. We are the 5 million men and women of the National Rifle Association of America. Join us: http://www.JoinNRAnow.Org

Friday, April 25, 2014

From Bunkerville USA We Present: Bundy Ranch

We are trading one form of slavery for another.
What I am saying is that all we Americans are trading one form  of slavery for another.  All of us are in some measure slaves of the federal government.  Through their oppressive tactics of telling the ranchers how many cows  they can have on their land, and making that  number too low to support a ranch, the BLM has  driven every rancher in Clark County off the land, except me.  The IRS keeps the people of America in fear, and makes us all work about a third or a half of the year before we have earned enough to pay their taxes.  This is nothing but slavery from January through May.  The NSA spies on us and collects our private phone calls and emails.  And  the government dole which many people in America are on, and have been for much of their lives, is dehumanizing and degrading.  It takes away incentive to work and self respect.  Eventually a person on the dole becomes a ward of the government, because his only source of income is a dole from the government.  Once the government has you in that position, you are its slave.
I am  trying to keep Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream alive. He was praying for the day when he and his people would be free, and he could say I’m free, free at last, thank God I’m free at last! But all of us here America, no matter our race, are having our freedom eroded and destroyed by the federal government because of its heavy handed tactics.  
The BLM, the IRS, the NSA--all of the federal agencies are destroying our freedom.  I am standing up against their bad  and unconstitutional laws, just like Rosa Parks did when she refused to sit in the back of the bus.  She started a revolution  in America, the civil rights movement, which freed the black people from much of the oppression they were suffering. I'm saying Martin Luther King's dream was not that Rosa could take her rightful seat in the front of the bus, but his dream was that she could take any seat on the bus and I would be honored to sit beside her.   I am doing the same thing Rosa Parks did--I am standing up against bad laws which dehumanize us and destroy our freedom.  Just like the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord, we are saying no to an oppressive government which considers us  to be slaves rather  than free men.  (TLR emphasis)
 I invite all people in America to join in our peaceful revolution to regain our freedom.  That is how America was started, and we need to keep that tradition alive.
Cliven D. Bundy

Bunkerville song - written and performed by Wayne and Paula Carson




Monday, April 21, 2014


Bundy Ranch Documentary 


URGENT!! ALERT!! A Call For Help At The Bundy Ranch

Message from Jack Kimball (NH)
The situation at the Bundy Ranch is getting worse. We have an additional team heading to the Bundy Rach that will arrive tomorrow. We also have a small team from our CT friends that will arrive at the Ranch around the same time. Many more are needed. Spread the word. Also, you must watch this video that just came out. It’s called the Bundy Ranch Documentary. It features our very own Jerry DeLemus and Alex Bieniect. Make it go viral!”
Bundy Ranch Documentary (11:17), View HERE.
“Important Summary Regarding Why the Bundy Ranch Event is happening
Some of you on the facebook page clearly do NOT have accurate information regarding Mr. Bundy and why this standoff has occurred so here is the best summary of the facts, to date. First of all, the Bundy’s owned their Ranch since 1870. They have lived their with their family for several generations. Back then and through the 1930′s the Bundy family, along with some 52 other cattle ranchers, used the expansive land surrounding them, for the grazing of their cattle herds. This they did for FREE as they were all tax payers and were entitled to the use of Public land. Then came the Bureau of land Management in the early 1940′s. That’s when the Fed’s took over control of the land. Once that happened, they established “grazing fees” to compensate for the use of the land. Bundy’s family actually paid those grazing fees for quite sometime until Mr. Bundy figured out their scheme. Then in 1993 he stopped paying the gazing fees and offerred to pay them to his own County. They refused to accept the fees. The reason he did this is that the BLM began increasing the grazing fees along with coming up with EPA issues like protecting the dessert tortoise. Thus they began restricting the grazing land and forcing the Cattlemen out. They used the Cattlemens own grazing fees to buy them out for a pittance of what the Ranches were worth. They were very successful at this in that they eliminated 52 or the 53 Cattle Ranchers that were originally there. Mr. Bundy is the last man standing. The reason 1993 is significant is that Agenda 21 was signed onto by George H W Bush in Rio in 1992 and soon later, bill Clinton began an agressive campaign to adhere to this UN plan to eliminate human beings from the majority of the open land in the West. Barak Obama has now put Agenda 21 in warp speed. The we find out that Harry Reid and his son have a sweetheart deal with a Chinese Company to come in and build a solar panel faciltiy on that very land. That’s why the strong armed effort was made to eliminate Mr. Bundy and his family. So, don’t believe the MSM BS. This is, and has been, an insideous effort to steal a man property and force him off his land. If you haven’t figured this out by now then you really have to begin paying attention. The fight for our Nations Liberty has began at the Bundy Ranch. Brave NH Patriots are there to defend Mr. Bundy and his family. They know what may happen to them and they are willing to pay that price. How about all of you?”

"Those who do not listen to mainstream media are uninformed, those who do are misinformed."

Stand Up!

Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

PLD: Ranchers And Empire In The American West


This column by Ryan W. McMaken originally appeared on the Ludwig von Mises Institute website on April 14, 2014.
The militarized siege of a cattle ranch near Bunkerville, Nev., drew national attention as dozens of federal agents, armed with machine guns, sniper rifles, helicopters and more descended on the ranch to seize cattle and people and generally to show everyone who’s boss.
The conservative press has framed the story in a variety of ways, casting the story both as matter of outright federal seizure of private land and as an absurd environmental crusade to save a tortoise from extinction.
The reality looks to be a little murkier, however, as is often the case when dealing with land ownership in the American West. Back in September, the Las Vegas Sun reported on the Bundy family and noted that troubles began 20 years ago when the family’s patriarch unilaterally determined that he would no longer pay the Bureau of Land Management use fees that have long been required to graze on federal lands. The exact legal and historical details of the Bundy family’s case will emerge slowly over time, but even if the family is completely in the wrong legally (which it probably is), it’s safe to say that taxpayer dollars might be better spent on things other than a shock and awe campaign waged against a tiny ranch in the middle of a Nevada desert. Nonetheless, this is just the latest dispute in a long history of ranchers jockeying with the Federal government over land use permits and land use regulations.

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SCGNEWS: Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told

There are some very powerful people who have done their best to cover up what really happened at the Bundy ranch in Clark County Nevada. Fortunately they failed.
Sources and full script:

Harry Reid's DC office number 202-224-3542. We should all call or mail and request for his resignation effective immediately. 
522 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington , DC 20510

Phone: 202-224-3542

Fax: 202-224-7327

Toll Free for Nevadans: 1-866-SEN-REID

NaturalNews: The New Rules Of Engagement In America: alt media, citizens, feds and more‏

Dear Lisbon Reporter and NaturalNews readers
Something has just shifted powerful in America. There are now new rules of engagement between the feds and the People.
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Bundy Ranch Update: Radio Interview With Sheriff Mack: Exclusive: Sources Inside The BLM and Las Vegas Metro Say Feds Are Planning A Raid On Bundy Home

 This Is Far From Over People.  Please follow the link at the bottom of the page and listen to more.
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By: Annabelle Bamforth
             Sheriff Richard Mack   ( Photo by Gage Skidmore)

Bunkerville, NEVADA, April 14, 2014– As reported yesterday, hundreds of federal agents are still at the Bundy Ranch and the area continues its status as a no-fly zone. Despite major media reports that the Nevada Bureau of Land Management is retreating, the remaining activity that still surrounds the ranch illustrates a different scenario.
Not only is the BLM not actually backing off of Cliven Bundy, Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association has revealed stunning information: on Ben Swann’s radio program, Mack said that he has received intelligence from multiple, credible sources inside the BLM and the Las Vegas Metro that there is “no question” that the federal government is planning a raid on the Bundy home and the homes of their children who live on the property.
According to Mack, the so-called retreat was nothing more than theatrics. “It was a ploy to get people to back off, to get people out of the way. They weren’t expecting us to get this amount of people here. They were surprised by the numbers and so they wanted a way to get us out of here. This was a ploy to get us out of here and then they’re going after the Bundys.”  Mack said that when he was at the Bundy ranch on Saturday there were an estimated 600 to 800 protesters present when federal agents were releasing the cattle.

“If they do that kind of raid, I don’t believe there’s any way that could happen without bloodshed,” Mack told Swann.
Mack spoke about the tactic that protesters could use by putting women at the front of the line facing the federal agents to make them think carefully before opening fire.

“I would’ve gone next. I would’ve been the next one to be killed. I’m not afraid to die here. I’m willing to die here,” said Mack.

Monday, April 14, 2014

Roy Pottter: The Real Story, Bundy Ranch Breakdown: ALERT Sheriff Gillespie Seeks Slaughter

"I am putting this up WAY out of chronological order because of its importance. LVPD Sheriff Gillespie said that the BLM would pull out and release the cattle back to Mr. Bundy within an hour of his (Gillespie's) speech to the crowd. It did not happen as he promised. Worse, an MRAD and a LVPD SWAT team were only one exit away. Why? After the discovery of the MRAP and the SWAT Team, Gillespie claimed they were to keep the peace. But, if the cattle were released according to the promise of Gillespie, no need to "keep the peace" would have existed. Therefore, Brand and I conclude that a more sinister and deadly trap was being set to end the lives of many people, especially BLM officers, and to use the massacre as an excuse to implement far more stringent and tyrannical controls over the American People. Gillespie sits on the board of the despicable Southern Poverty Law Center and the DHS. This was a highly sophisticated manipulation to kill as many as possible and blame it on the liberty/conservative movement."

Operation American Spring ~ May 16th 2014 in Washington DC... JOIN US!!!

JOIN US! Operation American Spring
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Every American that loves
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Restoration of
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"of the people, for the people, by the people"

From despotic and tyrannical
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Millions of Americans will participate

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Corrupt and criminal
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Field millions, as many as ten million Patriots

Who will assemble in a
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Go full-bore, no looking back,
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We are asking, pleading with you, and any others
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To call for a non-violent American Spring
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Bad Moon Rising in Nevada at the Bundy Ranch

"The assault upon the American experiment may have already gone too far to be resolved by peaceful means. Our nation's Founders pointed muskets and placed improvised explosive ordnance in defense of their God-given Liberty. Harsh actions to even consider: They killed people--sometimes coating supporters of the enemy in tar and feathers and setting them afire.

Were they murderers? No they were not. It is right and just for a free people to wage just war against any and all who would strip them of their God-given Liberty, and to destroy that enemy whether in uniform or in civilian attire.

Our nation's Founders understood this. Horrible to consider that the time may soon come where American Patriots may once again arrive at a point in history where they will have no choice but to fight for to defend their God-given Liberty.

Patrick Henry is famous for his words, 'Give me Liberty or give me death!'

I will not go into what exactly we did or planned tactically at the Bundy Ranch or plans we may or may not have if the Federal government returns to the ranch, but I will tell you that we will stand with the Bundy family and defend them under Constitutional Authority.

Are there any Americans today who would put their lives, and treasure on the line for their Liberty? Honestly, I think not enough at this time, and we had better work fast to educate people because IMO time is running very short. Our enemy is here and he's/she's occupying every party of our government like it or not.

Very shortly after arriving at the Bundy Ranch it was brought to my attention that Harry Reids son had interest in the area and I mentioned it in some of my previous posts, and you are all now hearing various reports that point to him and his daddy as possible reasons of why what is happening is happening there presently, but IMO there is much more going on than just the land grab, and I will go into that in a moment.

First I want you to understand exactly what we are talking about, We are talking about desert land--land that the average person when driving through with their air conditioning blowing full blast would not stop at unless forced to. Over 120 years ago however Mr. Bundy's family not only decided to stop in this area but when they pulled into the area via wagon train decided to work the land and become beef producers which is what the newer generation of Bundy's still do today, NOTE: for those of you who may be unaware this land is not owned by the federal government but rather the State of Nevada, and Mr. Bundy HAS offered to pay grazing fees to but they declined payment.

I have said all along that Obama is most likely going make some kind of move and create problems before the midterms because he's aware that if Conservatives take both houses he will stand a very good chance of being not only impeached, but he could (and should) face criminal charges including but not limited to treason..etc.
If I am correct in my assessment the next step in their plans will be to try to spread us Patriots thin using MANY fronts and we need to keep this in mind as we move forward. What I mean by this is watch out for several issues to start around the same time in different areas of the country in an effort to not allow all of us to converge on one certain area.

If we stay focused on DC however then their plans will fail if this indeed becomes the case, and we need to act against an all out tyrannical government.
It is not illegal for Americans to prepare for war in the event that a tyrannical government attacks us or tries to take over our country, and that is exactly what we plan to do." (PaineAviation)

Tuesday, April 1, 2014

Blue: For Earth. For Humanity. For Freedom. Official BLUE Trailer

What if the "green" movement isn't saving the earth, but instead is enslaving humanity?

  BLUE is more than a film, it's an idea. Ideas have the power to change the way we think, begin movements, and even change the world. One of the most prominent idea of our time today is the Green Movement, which says that the Earth is threatened by the activity, even the existence, of mankind, and that the noble response is to restrict our freedom in order to save the planet. The movie BLUE challenges that idea. BLUE is an independently funded and filmed documentary by director, JD King.

"In BLUE, filmmaker JD King takes you into some of the most spectacular forest lands in North America, and introduces you to many of the real people who have made their lives there for generations. They are now in a desperate battle to save everything they value, their land, their jobs, their families, their way of life. You may be shocked to discover that their worst enemy has become the 'environmental' movement. Do our new environmental governors really know what is best for these rich precious lands? To the contrary, JD King explores the reality underneath the rhetoric, and shows that this movement is no longer about humans' proper conservancy of nature, but is all about seizing the new 'green'—of money, power and dictatorial control. Can rational rules for these lands--based on the human values of rights and freedom—prevail?
Some of the true stories you will see in this movie may outrage you, some of them will move and inspire you, but you will never take the claims and demands of 'environmental leaders' at face value again after experiencing BLUE." — Prof. Matt Malkin, UCLA

Friday, March 28, 2014


MARTIAL LAW drills across the country, liberties being stripped away daily, the increasing biometric presence, police brutality.

Thursday, March 27, 2014

RedFlagNews: New Report: IRS Tea Party Targeting Leads Directly to Obama...

(by Kris Zane, WCJ) -- According to a new report issued by the congressional Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, it was high-level IRS staffers based in Washington and not “rogue” IRS agents in Cincinnati that targeted Tea Party groups. According to dozens of emails released by the report, Lois Lerner and literally dozens of upper level employees of the IRS not only knew about the targeting of conservative groups, but directed it. Lerner, in one email, even went so far as to call Tea Party groups “very dangerous.”

 Video produced by Produced, written, and edited by Kris Zane. Narrated by Tom Hinchey

In other words, the targeting of Tea Party groups was orchestrated from Washington—literally a walking distance from the Oval Office.
Are we to believe Obama was not involved—being only steps away—when he repeatedly criticized the Tea Party, identifying them as his enemies, calling them Tea Baggers?
But here is the key to the coverup:
Obama directed the IRS to attack the Tea Party in order to affect the 2012 election. More than likely, if the Tea Party had not been weakened, Barack Hussein Obama would not be President of the United States today.

Submitted by: Todd Comber